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    <p>Ahoj,</p>
    <p>pro inspiraci taky přidám jeden návod podle mně jeden z
      nejkomplexnějších: <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://flurdy.com/docs/postfix/">http://flurdy.com/docs/postfix/</a></p>
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    <p>SH<br>
    </p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 14/09/2018 12:28, Martin Koutecký
      wrote:<br>
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      <div dir="ltr">Z webových rozhraní neznám žádné, které podporuje
        conversation view (pro mě nutnost), z desktopových to umí jen
        geary, nylas mail / mailspring, a thunderbird s rozšířením které
        má dost nepříjemné bugy (např. když přijde nový mail, smaže se
        rozepsaná odpověď).<br>
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            <div dir="ltr">On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at 1:01 PM Tomáš Leypold
              <<a href="mailto:leypold.tomas@gmail.com"
                moz-do-not-send="true">leypold.tomas@gmail.com</a>>
              wrote:<br>
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                <div dir="ltr">Ahoj,
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                  <div>na staging (lxc) už docker funguje, ale je třeba
                    po instalaci úprava docker network a přidat do
                    iptables snat na veřejnou ip + se řeší problém s
                    rychlostí storage driveru, ale pro hraní/naučení je
                    to v pohodě. Kdyžtak můžu vyhrabat v historii co
                    přesně je třeba přenastavit.</div>
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                    <div dir="ltr">S pozdravem,
                      <div>Tomáš Leypold</div>
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                  <div class="gmail_quote">Dne 14. září 2018 10:26 Petr
                    Bolf <span dir="ltr"><<a
                        href="mailto:petr.bolf@taborpolana.cz"
                        rel="noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer"
                        target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">petr.bolf@taborpolana.cz</a>></span>
                    napsal(a):</div>
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                        <p>jo, s dockerem moc neumím, ale chci se
                          naučit. Jenže zatím na vpsfree nefunguje, nebo
                          jo?<br>
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                          PB<br>
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                          14.9.2018 v 10:06 Jakub Vyvážil napsal(a):<br>
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                              <div dir="ltr">Ahoj,
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                                <div>   ještě to můžeš zkusit přes
                                  docker s předpřipraveným image, třeba
                                  <a
                                    href="https://hub.docker.com/r/tvial/docker-mailserver/"
                                    rel="noreferrer noreferrer
                                    noreferrer" target="_blank"
                                    moz-do-not-send="true">https://hub.docker.com/r/tvial/docker-mailserver/</a></div>
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                                <div>JV</div>
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                                <div dir="ltr">On Fri, Sep 14, 2018 at
                                  10:02 AM Petr Bolf <<a
                                    href="mailto:petr.bolf@taborpolana.cz"
                                    rel="noreferrer noreferrer
                                    noreferrer" target="_blank"
                                    moz-do-not-send="true">petr.bolf@taborpolana.cz</a>>
                                  wrote:<br>
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                                    <p>Ahoj,</p>
                                    <p><br>
                                    </p>
                                    <p>dík. Návodů je spousta a už jsem
                                      kdysi postfix a spol. instaloval
                                      (myslím, že podle návodu na <a
                                        href="http://root.cz"
                                        rel="noreferrer noreferrer
                                        noreferrer" target="_blank"
                                        moz-do-not-send="true">root.cz</a>).
                                      Jediný, čeho se bojím, že bude
                                      časově náročné spravovat vše kolem
                                      spamu, antivirů atd. Proto jsem to
                                      chtěl, aspoň pro začátek spíš
                                      hostovat. <br>
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                                    <p>Dík za ten odkaz, to vypadá
                                      docela zajimavě. Vyzkouším.</p>
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                                    </p>
                                    <p>Petr Bolf<br>
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                                      14.9.2018 v 09:40 Ondřej Kopka
                                      napsal(a):<br>
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                                        <div dir="ltr">Ahoj,
                                          <div>osobně Exim nahrazuju na
                                            každé instalaci instantně
                                            Postfixem, na netu je
                                            spousta návodů jak rozjet
                                            Postfix, Dovecot, OpenDKIM
                                            atp ... není to zas tak
                                            složité. Nicméně pokud to
                                            chceš mít u sebe a zároveň
                                            se ti s tím nechce
                                            nastavovat, mrkni na <a
                                              href="https://github.com/modoboa/modoboa-installer"
                                              rel="noreferrer noreferrer
                                              noreferrer"
                                              target="_blank"
                                              moz-do-not-send="true">https://github.com/modoboa/modoboa-installer</a>,
                                            zrovna včera jsem si s tím
                                            hrál a byť mi to příjde
                                            občas trochu těžkopádnější
                                            (hlavně web interface),
                                            funguje to dobře.</div>
                                          <div><br>
                                          </div>
                                          <div>Je to taková skládačka z
                                            Postfixu, Dovecotu atp takže
                                            se tomu můžeš docela dobře
                                            podívat pod kapotu jak co
                                            funguje.<br clear="all">
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                                        <div dir="ltr">On Fri, Sep 14,
                                          2018 at 9:21 AM Petr Bolf <<a
href="mailto:petr.bolf@taborpolana.cz" rel="noreferrer noreferrer
                                            noreferrer" target="_blank"
                                            moz-do-not-send="true">petr.bolf@taborpolana.cz</a>>
                                          wrote:<br>
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                                        <blockquote class="gmail_quote"
                                          style="margin:0 0 0
                                          .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc
                                          solid;padding-left:1ex">Ahoj,<br>
                                          <br>
                                          no dík. Máš v principu pravdu.
                                          Nicméně mám sílu
                                          "decentralizvat se" tak <br>
                                          v datech (vlastní databáze
                                          proti různým cloudům, vlastní
                                          git repozitáře <br>
                                          proti "microsoftímu :-))
                                          githubu ), mám sílu zkoušet a
                                          používat různé <br>
                                          jazyky pro webové aplikace,
                                          zkoušet webové servery atd.<br>
                                          <br>
                                          <br>
                                          No dobře, a kdybych se rozhodl
                                          pro provozování mailboxu, tak
                                          postfix, <br>
                                          sendmail, qmalil, nebo třeba
                                          exim ? Z toho co jsem
                                          nastudoval různě po <br>
                                          forech zatím váhám mezi
                                          postfixem a eximem. Plus
                                          dovecot, tam asi na <br>
                                          výběr moc není a ani to, zdá
                                          se, není potřeba.<br>
                                          <br>
                                          <br>
                                          Dá se nějak zjistit, co
                                          používají velcí poskytovatelé
                                          hostingu? Třeba z <br>
                                          hlaviček mailů ?<br>
                                          <br>
                                          <br>
                                          dík<br>
                                          <br>
                                          <br>
                                          Petr Bolf<br>
                                          <br>
                                          <br>
                                          Dne 14.9.2018 v 02:16 Pavel
                                          Snajdr napsal(a):<br>
                                          > Cauko,<br>
                                          ><br>
                                          > za sebe k tomu muzu rict
                                          asi jenom to, ze vlastni
                                          mailovy server byl <br>
                                          > uplne primarni impulz
                                          tenhle nas spolek zalozit ;)<br>
                                          ><br>
                                          > Od ty doby se, pravda, to
                                          nastavovani trochu
                                          zkomplikovalo, ale na <br>
                                          > druhou stranu, je to
                                          jedina poradne
                                          decentralizovana komunikacni <br>
                                          > technologie, kterou mame.<br>
                                          ><br>
                                          > Kdyz odmitneme se s ni
                                          ucit delat a jit spolu s ni s
                                          dobou (ruzne <br>
                                          > tri-ctyr-peti pismenkove
                                          zkratky k SMTP navic), tak nam
                                          ji proste <br>
                                          > Googli a podobni bastardi
                                          seberou pod rukama.<br>
                                          ><br>
                                          > Pokud muzu radit,
                                          doporucil bych se spis ucit se
                                          s tim delat - a <br>
                                          > kousek vic si zakladat na
                                          tech ziskanych schopnostech.<br>
                                          ><br>
                                          > Diky za podporu
                                          decentralizovanyho netu predem
                                          ;)<br>
                                          ><br>
                                          > /snajpa<br>
                                          ><br>
                                          > On 2018-09-13 21:45, Petr
                                          Bolf wrote:<br>
                                          >> zdravím,<br>
                                          >><br>
                                          >><br>
                                          >> nechci na vpsfree
                                          řešit maily. Používám vpsfree
                                          na webový server, na<br>
                                          >> git repozitáře, na
                                          databáze, ale maily řešit
                                          enchci a rád bych to<br>
                                          >> přenechal nějaké
                                          službě. Měl jsem to doteď na
                                          hostingu, ale ten hodlám<br>
                                          >> zrušit (nač hosting,
                                          když mám vpsfree :-) ).
                                          Uvažoval jsem o přesun<br>
                                          >> mailů na profi seznam
                                          mail, ale narazil jsem na to,
                                          že nepodporují<br>
                                          >> vnořené složky, tedy
                                          klasickou stromovou strukturu
                                          adresářů. Mají jen<br>
                                          >> něco, čemu říkají
                                          "vlastní složky" a mohou být
                                          jen v kořenovém<br>
                                          >> adresáři malilů.<br>
                                          >><br>
                                          >> Hledám tedy dobrý
                                          mailbox hosting. Jak to řešíte
                                          Vy? Provozujete na<br>
                                          >> vpsfree weby a máte
                                          maily někde jinde? Kde?<br>
                                          >><br>
                                          >><br>
                                          >> díky<br>
                                          >><br>
                                          >><br>
                                          >> Petr Bolf<br>
                                          >><br>
                                          >>
                                          _______________________________________________<br>
                                          >> Community-list
                                          mailing list<br>
                                          >> <a
                                            href="mailto:Community-list@lists.vpsfree.cz"
                                            rel="noreferrer noreferrer
                                            noreferrer" target="_blank"
                                            moz-do-not-send="true">Community-list@lists.vpsfree.cz</a><br>
                                          >> <a
                                            href="http://lists.vpsfree.cz/listinfo/community-list"
                                            rel="noreferrer noreferrer
                                            noreferrer noreferrer"
                                            target="_blank"
                                            moz-do-not-send="true">http://lists.vpsfree.cz/listinfo/community-list</a><br>
                                          >
                                          _______________________________________________<br>
                                          > Community-list mailing
                                          list<br>
                                          > <a
                                            href="mailto:Community-list@lists.vpsfree.cz"
                                            rel="noreferrer noreferrer
                                            noreferrer" target="_blank"
                                            moz-do-not-send="true">Community-list@lists.vpsfree.cz</a><br>
                                          > <a
                                            href="http://lists.vpsfree.cz/listinfo/community-list"
                                            rel="noreferrer noreferrer
                                            noreferrer noreferrer"
                                            target="_blank"
                                            moz-do-not-send="true">http://lists.vpsfree.cz/listinfo/community-list</a><br>
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_______________________________________________<br>
                                          Community-list mailing list<br>
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                                            href="mailto:Community-list@lists.vpsfree.cz"
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                        target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">Community-list@lists.vpsfree.cz</a><br>
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                        href="http://lists.vpsfree.cz/listinfo/community-list"
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              <a href="http://lists.vpsfree.cz/listinfo/community-list"
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<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://lists.vpsfree.cz/listinfo/community-list">http://lists.vpsfree.cz/listinfo/community-list</a>
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