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    <p>Taky jsem spalil hrozně moc času nastavení odeslání mailu. Vůbec
      nechapu proč musím stat na hlavu a podepsat všechno třemi různými
      spůsoby abych mohl posílat mail. Nikdy jsem nedokazal např. dostat
      mail do adresy na domena msn.com <br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 08/16/2018 04:23 PM, Jiri Vesely
      wrote:<br>
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      Jiste chapu, ale totalne me toci odpovedi zkontroluj si SPF
      reverzni DNS, MX udelej DKIM a podobne. Spalil jsem tim spoustu
      casu a vim o cem mluvim. Nejsem zadny novacek.<br>
      Ten web co vidis je jen jedna sluzba co tam bezi a self-signed je
      tam schvalne.<br>
      Nejsem si vedom toho, ze by prvni prispevek byl jakkoliv
      poburujci. Pridal jsem az kdyz se zacli resit naproste nesmysly.<br>
      <br>
      <div class="gmail_quote">16. srpna 2018 16:09:34 SELČ, "Ladislav
        Blažek" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:ladislav@lblazek.cz"><ladislav@lblazek.cz></a> napsal:
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          Vis Jirko, potiz je, ze tomu celkem i rozumim, byt me mail
          hosting nezivi.
          <div class="">Kdyby jsi diskuzi nezacal jako debil, pak by i
            ty reakce ostatnich byly smirlivejsi. Kdyz se podivam na web
            <a href="https://donjirka.cz" class=""
              moz-do-not-send="true">https://donjirka.cz</a>, tak tam
            vidim self-signed certifikat, takze tvoje “problemy" muzou
            pramenit ze spousty veci. Misto toho hledas jejich pricinu
            na ostatnich VPS, ukolujes tu statutara a chovas se jak
            hulvat. Jak se do lesa vola tak se ozyva. Zkus to priste
            jinak. Mej se, L.</div>
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            <div><br class="">
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                <div class="">16. 8. 2018 v 16:03, Jiri Vesely <<a
                    href="mailto:postmaster@donjirka.cz" class=""
                    moz-do-not-send="true">postmaster@donjirka.cz</a>>:</div>
                <br class="Apple-interchange-newline">
                <div class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0);
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                    text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space:
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                    -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration:
                    none; float: none; display: inline !important;"
                    class="">Kdyz tomu nerozumis je lepsi mlcet....</span><br
                    style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
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                    letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start;
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                  <div class="gmail_quote" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0,
                    0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px;
                    font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal;
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                    -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration:
                    none;">16. srpna 2018 15:50:57 SELČ, "Ladislav
                    Blažek" <<a href="mailto:ladislav@lblazek.cz"
                      class="" moz-do-not-send="true">ladislav@lblazek.cz</a>>
                    napsal:
                    <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt
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                      border-left-style: solid; border-left-color:
                      rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">IMHO
                      nebude problem s whitelistingem jedne IP. Viktor
                      popisuje problem pri blacklistovani nejakeho
                      adresniho rozsahu. Tam ti asi reverzni zaznam moc
                      nepomuze.
                      <div class="">Ale vyserme se na, on nakonec zadnej
                        realnej problem nema, jen chce udelat svet lepsi
                        lustrovanim provozu ostatnich VPSek na vpsFree.</div>
                      <div class=""><br class="">
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                            <div class="">16. 8. 2018 v 15:43, Ondrej
                              Beranek <<a
                                href="mailto:rainbof@gmail.com" class=""
                                moz-do-not-send="true">rainbof@gmail.com</a>>:</div>
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                            <div class="">
                              <div dir="ltr" class="">Mozna kdyz na tom
                                budes mit nastavenej reverz tak to tak
                                brat nebudou ne ? ale asi je to kus od
                                kusu.<br class="">
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                              <div class="gmail_quote">
                                <div dir="ltr" class="">čt 16. 8. 2018
                                  v 15:34 odesílatel Viktor Čížek <<a
                                    href="mailto:viktor@m19.cz" class=""
                                    moz-do-not-send="true">viktor@m19.cz</a>>
                                  napsal:<br class="">
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                                <blockquote class="gmail_quote"
                                  style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;
                                  border-left-width: 1px;
                                  border-left-style: solid;
                                  border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204);
                                  padding-left: 1ex;">Mám pocit, že
                                  původní problém byl, kdo vlastně má
                                  žádat o delistaci. Zda majitel
                                  příslušné<span
                                    class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br
                                    class="">
                                  VPSky, které byla přiřazena tamta IP
                                  adresa nebo statutár vpsFree jako
                                  zástupce držitele toho<span
                                    class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br
                                    class="">
                                  adresního rozsahu.<br class="">
                                  <br class="">
                                  V tom směru mám zkušenost, že existují
                                  situace, kdy to reálný uživatel té IP
                                  prostě neudělá.<span
                                    class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br
                                    class="">
                                  Měl jsem svého času DSL linku od
                                  T-Mobile a moje statická IP (společně
                                  s celým rozsahem) se<span
                                    class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br
                                    class="">
                                  dostala do blacklistu SORBS. Když jsem
                                  se pokoušel to s nimi řešit,
                                  odpověděli něco ve smyslu<span
                                    class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br
                                    class="">
                                  "Vidíme, že nejsi držitelem té adresy
                                  a proto se s Tebou nebudeme bavit. Ať
                                  se ozve ten, komu<span
                                    class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br
                                    class="">
                                  byla přidělena." Ohlásil jsem to tedy
                                  na T-Mobile a těm trvalo asi 3/4 roku,
                                  než tenhle SORBS<span
                                    class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br
                                    class="">
                                  přesvědčili, že zalistovat celý /22
                                  rozsah je vážně pitomost.<br class="">
                                  <br class="">
                                  No a vzhledem k tomu, že u adres,
                                  které má vpsFree, je Snajpovo jméno,
                                  dokážu si představit, že<span
                                    class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br
                                    class="">
                                  obdobně jako tehdy s mnou, někde
                                  vyběhnou s Donem Jirkou. Ať prý se
                                  ozve Snajpa, že se budou<span
                                    class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br
                                    class="">
                                  bavit jenom s ním.<br class="">
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                                  <br class="">
                                  V.<br class="">
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                                    href="http://lists.vpsfree.cz/listinfo/community-list"
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                                href="http://lists.vpsfree.cz/listinfo/community-list"
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                  <span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
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                    class="">S pozdravem</span><br style="caret-color:
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                  <span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family:
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                    class="">Jiri Vesely</span><span style="caret-color:
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                    12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal;
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                    class="">_______________________________________________</span><br
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                    class="">Community-list mailing list</span><br
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                    moz-do-not-send="true">http://lists.vpsfree.cz/listinfo/community-list</a></div>
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      S pozdravem<br>
      Jiri Vesely
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Community-list mailing list
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Community-list@lists.vpsfree.cz">Community-list@lists.vpsfree.cz</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://lists.vpsfree.cz/listinfo/community-list">http://lists.vpsfree.cz/listinfo/community-list</a>
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