<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Hele, teď jsem se kouknul na začátek vlákna…<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">"Čau, ano, ta adresa je moje, ale pokud se podíváte pořádně, tak se ban na blacklistech vztahuje na celý rozsah vpsfree…. Možná bych to mohl vyřešit i po své rovině. Nicméně se domnívám, že by se toho měl ujmout nějaký statutar sdružení a zjistit kde je problém.”</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Ta poslední věta nebyla šťastně formulována, ale jinak jsi to napsal jasně. Omlouvám se. </div><div class="">Otázkou zůstává validita/váha těch zmíněných blacklistů a za jakých okolností se na ně dostáváme. A taky jestli úsilí vynaložené na whitelisting se s ohledem na jejich bezvýznamnost vůbec vyplatí. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">L.<br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">16. 8. 2018 v 16:23, Jiri Vesely <<a href="mailto:postmaster@donjirka.cz" class="">postmaster@donjirka.cz</a>>:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">Jiste chapu, ale totalne me toci odpovedi zkontroluj si SPF reverzni DNS, MX udelej DKIM a podobne. Spalil jsem tim spoustu casu a vim o cem mluvim. Nejsem zadny novacek.</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">Ten web co vidis je jen jedna sluzba co tam bezi a self-signed je tam schvalne.</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">Nejsem si vedom toho, ze by prvni prispevek byl jakkoliv poburujci. Pridal jsem az kdyz se zacli resit naproste nesmysly.</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><div class="gmail_quote" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;">16. srpna 2018 16:09:34 SELČ, "Ladislav Blažek" <<a href="mailto:ladislav@lblazek.cz" class="">ladislav@lblazek.cz</a>> napsal:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">Vis Jirko, potiz je, ze tomu celkem i rozumim, byt me mail hosting nezivi.<div class="">Kdyby jsi diskuzi nezacal jako debil, pak by i ty reakce ostatnich byly smirlivejsi. Kdyz se podivam na web<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://donjirka.cz/" class="">https://donjirka.cz</a>, tak tam vidim self-signed certifikat, takze tvoje “problemy" muzou pramenit ze spousty veci. Misto toho hledas jejich pricinu na ostatnich VPS, ukolujes tu statutara a chovas se jak hulvat. Jak se do lesa vola tak se ozyva. Zkus to priste jinak. Mej se, L.</div><div class=""><div class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">16. 8. 2018 v 16:03, Jiri Vesely <<a href="mailto:postmaster@donjirka.cz" class="">postmaster@donjirka.cz</a>>:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><span class="" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;">Kdyz tomu nerozumis je lepsi mlcet....</span><br class="" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><br class="" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;"><div class="gmail_quote" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;">16. srpna 2018 15:50:57 SELČ, "Ladislav Blažek" <<a href="mailto:ladislav@lblazek.cz" class="">ladislav@lblazek.cz</a>> napsal:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">IMHO nebude problem s whitelistingem jedne IP. Viktor popisuje problem pri blacklistovani nejakeho adresniho rozsahu. Tam ti asi reverzni zaznam moc nepomuze.<div class="">Ale vyserme se na, on nakonec zadnej realnej problem nema, jen chce udelat svet lepsi lustrovanim provozu ostatnich VPSek na vpsFree.</div><div class=""><br class=""><div class=""><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">16. 8. 2018 v 15:43, Ondrej Beranek <<a href="mailto:rainbof@gmail.com" class="">rainbof@gmail.com</a>>:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class="">Mozna kdyz na tom budes mit nastavenej reverz tak to tak brat nebudou ne ? ale asi je to kus od kusu.<br class=""></div><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="">čt 16. 8. 2018 v 15:34 odesílatel Viktor Čížek <<a href="mailto:viktor@m19.cz" class="">viktor@m19.cz</a>> napsal:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">Mám pocit, že původní problém byl, kdo vlastně má žádat o delistaci. Zda majitel příslušné<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">VPSky, které byla přiřazena tamta IP adresa nebo statutár vpsFree jako zástupce držitele toho<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">adresního rozsahu.<br class=""><br class="">V tom směru mám zkušenost, že existují situace, kdy to reálný uživatel té IP prostě neudělá.<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">Měl jsem svého času DSL linku od T-Mobile a moje statická IP (společně s celým rozsahem) se<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">dostala do blacklistu SORBS. Když jsem se pokoušel to s nimi řešit, odpověděli něco ve smyslu<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">"Vidíme, že nejsi držitelem té adresy a proto se s Tebou nebudeme bavit. Ať se ozve ten, komu<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">byla přidělena." Ohlásil jsem to tedy na T-Mobile a těm trvalo asi 3/4 roku, než tenhle SORBS<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">přesvědčili, že zalistovat celý /22 rozsah je vážně pitomost.<br class=""><br class="">No a vzhledem k tomu, že u adres, které má vpsFree, je Snajpovo jméno, dokážu si představit, že<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">obdobně jako tehdy s mnou, někde vyběhnou s Donem Jirkou. Ať prý se ozve Snajpa, že se budou<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">bavit jenom s ním.<br class=""><br class=""><br class="">V.<br class=""><br class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">Community-list mailing list<br class=""><a href="mailto:Community-list@lists.vpsfree.cz" target="_blank" class="">Community-list@lists.vpsfree.cz</a><br class=""><a href="http://lists.vpsfree.cz/listinfo/community-list" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">http://lists.vpsfree.cz/listinfo/community-list</a><br class=""></blockquote></div>_______________________________________________<br class="">Community-list mailing list<br class=""><a href="mailto:Community-list@lists.vpsfree.cz" class="">Community-list@lists.vpsfree.cz</a><br class=""><a href="http://lists.vpsfree.cz/listinfo/community-list" class="">http://lists.vpsfree.cz/listinfo/community-list</a><br class=""></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></div></blockquote></div><br class="" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); 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