<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Ahoj,<div class="">obvykle sem pasivni clen, ale tohle me nadzvedlo… </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Jak uz tu nekdo psal:</div><div class="">1. "Nejlepsi je vyhnout se blacklistum, kde se vyskytuji subnety.”</div><div class="">2. normalni blacklisty blacklistuji konkretni IP tve VPS</div><div class="">3. s MS to jde resit</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">“...Urcite by vpsfree melo vedet proc se na ten a onen blacklist doatala a pokusit se to nejak napravit….”</div><div class="">vpsFree jsme my vsichni, cos teda zjistil a o co ses pokusil?</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">WTF…</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">/L<br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">16. 8. 2018 v 13:21, Jiri Vesely <<a href="mailto:postmaster@donjirka.cz" class="">postmaster@donjirka.cz</a>>:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">Co to tady melete za nesmysly jak asi mohu ovlivnit za sebe aby cizi VPS prestala byt derava jak cednik nebo prestala rozesilat spam?<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">Myslim ze mate bordel v tom jak tyhle blokovace funguji a doporucuji si o tom neco zjistit.</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">U Microsoft je situace pomerne jednoducha protoze dokazi dat na separatni ip whitelist.</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">Urcite by vpsfree melo vedet proc se na ten a onen blacklist doatala a pokusit se to nejak napravit.</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">Je to jako kdyz pronajimate byt a delate ze je vam uplne jedno kdyz tam nekdo vari pervitin.... fakt logika....</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><div class="gmail_quote" style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;">7. srpna 2018 15:17:49 SELČ, "Ondrej.Flidr" <<a href="mailto:Ondrej.Flidr@seznam.cz" class="">Ondrej.Flidr@seznam.cz</a>> napsal:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left-width: 1px; border-left-style: solid; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"><div class="">My to resime dost podobne - u dedicated serveru je starost klienta si hlidat a delistovat IP adresy, u managed to resime my. A co se tyce odchozich mailu z "cloudovyho" emailovyho reseni, tak tam prohanime antispamem i odchozi provoz a podezrely maily rovnou zahazujeme driv, nez opusti nasi sit, takze tim efektivne snizujeme sanci, ze zloklient zablokuje neco jinyho nez sebe.<br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Osobne se priklanim k reseni "tvoje VPS = tvoje starost".</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Ondra Flidr<br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><aside class="">---------- Původní e-mail ----------<br class="">Od: Pavel Snajdr <<a href="mailto:snajpa@snajpa.net" class="">snajpa@snajpa.net</a>><br class="">Komu: <a href="http://vpsFree.cz" class="">vpsFree.cz</a> Community list <<a href="mailto:community-list@lists.vpsfree.cz" class="">community-list@lists.vpsfree.cz</a>><br class="">Datum: 7. 8. 2018 10:12:51<br class="">Předmět: Re: [<a href="http://vpsFree.cz" class="">vpsFree.cz</a>: community-list] Blacklist</aside><br class=""><blockquote data-email="snajpa@snajpa.net" class="">A jinak, jeste jsem s Tomasem Srnkou resil detaily, jak te ve<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">Websupportu maji pro virtualni servery - a nikde se s tim nemazou,<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">evidentne.<br class=""><br class="">Sprava IP na blacklistech je zalezitost jejich klientu.<br class=""><br class="">V obchodnich podminkach maji, ze nesmis rozesilat spam a za nedodrzeni<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">podminek te muzou hned od nich vyhodit.<br class=""><br class="">My se spis snazime ucit lidi s tema technologiema delat, nez abychom je<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">hned vyhaneli, nebo tim aspon vyhrozovali.<br class=""><br class="">To s sebou nese to riziko, ze na tech spamlistech budeme - a proto si<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">musi v tomhle "pomoct" clovek sam.<br class=""><br class="">Dozvedel jsem se, ze u Microsoftu si jde udelat ucet a resit s nimi ty<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">blokace /24ek, tam by to stalo za to poresit, takze se na to vrhnu.<br class=""><br class="">Ale mimo Microsoft, to netusim moc, jak bychom to systemove dobre<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">vyresili, nez "pomoz si sam", uprimne.<br class=""><br class="">Tech blacklistu, u kterych jejich provozovatele nepremysli, je dost (a<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">nebo maji totalne na haku mensi ostruvky na Internetu, coz je pripad<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">Microsoftu).<br class=""><br class="">/snajpa<br class=""><br class="">On 2018-07-15 12:22, Jiri Vesely wrote:<br class="">> Čau, ano, ta adresa je moje, ale pokud se podíváte pořádně, tak<br class="">> se ban na blacklistech vztahuje na celý rozsah vpsfree.<br class="">> Narazil jsem na to při konfiguraci Fortigate když mi začal<br class="">> blokovat mou vps.<br class="">> Možná bych to mohl vyřešit i po své rovině. Nicméně se<br class="">> domnívám, že by se toho měl ujmout nějaký statutar sdružení a<br class="">> zjistit kde je problém.<br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> 11. července 2018 8:24:58 SELČ, "Pavel Hruška" <<a href="mailto:mrpear@mrpear.net" class="">mrpear@mrpear.net</a>><br class="">> napsal:<br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>> Je vlastně otázka, na co se původní dotaz vztahuje - jestli je<br class="">>> to bráno tak, že "tahle IP je vaše (vpsfree) a jste na<br class="">>> blacklistech, co s tím uděláte?" Nebo spíš "dostal jsem se na<br class="">>> blacklist, co s tím?"<br class="">>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>> Jinak díval jsem se na tu zmiňovanou IP přes mxtoolbox a je v<br class="">>> podstatě čistá. V praxi je použitelných pár opravdu<br class="">>> seriozních a stabilních blacklistů (já používám<br class="">>> <a href="http://b.barracudacentral.org" class="">b.barracudacentral.org</a> [4],<a href="http://xbl.spamhaus.org" class="">xbl.spamhaus.org</a> [5],<a href="http://sbl.spamhaus.org" class="">sbl.spamhaus.org</a><br class="">>> [6],<a href="http://bl.spamcop.net" class="">bl.spamcop.net</a> [7]), pokud jsem se jich snažil použít víc,<br class="">>> měl jsem úměrně tomu problémy s odmítáním regulérních<br class="">>> mailů. Člověk pak tráví spoustu času tvořením výjimek.<br class="">>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>> Pavel<br class="">>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>> Dne 10. července 2018 16:42 Jiri Vesely <<a href="mailto:postmaster@donjirka.cz" class="">postmaster@donjirka.cz</a>><br class="">>> napsal(a):<br class="">>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>>> Čau, bylo by možné něco udělat s blokováním našich vps na<br class="">>>> cca 30 blacklistech?<br class="">>>> <a href="http://www.eakcorp.net" class="">http://www.eakcorp.net</a> [1]<br class="">>>> <a href="http://www.robtex.com/ip-lookup/37.205.9.62" class="">http://www.robtex.com/ip-lookup/37.205.9.62</a> [2]<br class="">>>> --<br class="">>>> S pozdravem<br class="">>>> Jiri V.<br class="">>>> --<br class="">>>> S pozdravem<br class="">>>> Jiri Vesely<br class="">>>> _______________________________________________<br class="">>>> Community-list mailing list<br class="">>>> <a href="mailto:Community-list@lists.vpsfree.cz" class="">Community-list@lists.vpsfree.cz</a><br class="">>>> <a href="http://lists.vpsfree.cz/listinfo/community-list" class="">http://lists.vpsfree.cz/listinfo/community-list</a> [3]<br class="">>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>> --<br class="">>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>> Ing. Pavel Hruška<br class="">>> <a href="http://www.mrpear.net" class="">http://www.mrpear.net</a> [8]<br class="">>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>> <a href="mailto:mrpear@mrpear.net" class="">mrpear@mrpear.net</a><br class="">>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">>> web, webdesign, web-aplikace:<br class="">>> <a href="http://www.pearfect.cz" class="">http://www.pearfect.cz</a> [9]<br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> --<br class="">> S pozdravem<br class="">> Jiri Vesely<br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> Links:<br class="">> ------<br class="">> [1] <a href="http://www.eakcorp.net" class="">http://www.eakcorp.net</a><br class="">> [2] <a href="http://www.robtex.com/ip-lookup/37.205.9.62" class="">http://www.robtex.com/ip-lookup/37.205.9.62</a><br class="">> [3] <a href="http://lists.vpsfree.cz/listinfo/community-list" class="">http://lists.vpsfree.cz/listinfo/community-list</a><br class="">> [4] <a href="http://b.barracudacentral.org" class="">http://b.barracudacentral.org</a><br class="">> [5] <a href="http://xbl.spamhaus.org" class="">http://xbl.spamhaus.org</a><br class="">> [6] <a href="http://sbl.spamhaus.org" class="">http://sbl.spamhaus.org</a><br class="">> [7] <a href="http://bl.spamcop.net" class="">http://bl.spamcop.net</a><br class="">> [8] <a href="http://www.mrpear.net/" class="">http://www.mrpear.net/</a><br class="">> [9] <a href="http://www.pearfect.cz/" class="">http://www.pearfect.cz/</a><br class="">><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">> _______________________________________________<br class="">> Community-list mailing list<br class="">> <a href="mailto:Community-list@lists.vpsfree.cz" class="">Community-list@lists.vpsfree.cz</a><br class="">> <a href="http://lists.vpsfree.cz/listinfo/community-list" class="">http://lists.vpsfree.cz/listinfo/community-list</a><br class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">Community-list mailing list<br class=""><a href="mailto:Community-list@lists.vpsfree.cz" class="">Community-list@lists.vpsfree.cz</a><br class="">http://lists.vpsfree.cz/listinfo/community-list<br class=""></blockquote></div></blockquote></div><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); 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text-decoration: none;" class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">S pozdravem</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">Jiri Vesely</span><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none; float: none; display: inline !important;" class="">_______________________________________________</span><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><span style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; 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