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    <p>Viděl jsem kdysi na yt přednášku IT managera (?) z ministerstva
      vnitra na téma GDPR a o zálohách se zmiňoval, že se promazávat
      nemusí, ale musí existovat automatický mechanizmus, který po
      obnově ze zálohy opět vymaže ty záznamy, u kterých bylo žádáno o
      výmaz.<br>
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    Petr<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Dne 2.2.2018 v 17:06 David Karban
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      <div dir="ltr">Ještě k mazání dat ze záloh obecně, nemělo by být
        nutné je v zálohách smazat, pokud je to moc náročné, mělo by ale
        být zajištěno aby v případě obnovy z těchto záloh byla data, co
        mají být smazána, smazána. 
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                                        pozdravy</span></div>
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                                        style="font-size:12.8px">David
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                                    <div>P.S: Pokud pro Vás mohu ještě
                                      něco udělat, dejte mi prosím
                                      vědět.</div>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">Dne 2. února 2018 17:02 Stepan Liska <span
            dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:stepan@comlinks.cz"
              target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">stepan@comlinks.cz</a>></span>
          napsal(a):<br>
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                style="font-family:helvetica,arial,sans-serif">Na
                podobný dotaz (mazání dat ze zálohy v trezoru) mi
                právník odpověděl, že to dělat není nutné, smažu data co
                jsou v databázi/logách - prostě se kterými se pracuje, a
                zálohovaná data nechám být (mám směrnici, že záloha bude
                skartována třeba po 6ti měsících). A protože se k tomu
                nedá dostat snadno, tak jsem vyvinul přiměřené úsilí,
                abych splnil požadavek na výmaz. Nicméně je to celé na
                posouzení toho úředníka co to bude kontrolovat - jestli
                moje úsilí bylo přiměřené. A taky to nevyplývá přímo z
                formulace nařízení, ta je celkem striktní. Jenom všichni
                tvrdí, že "to tak budou dělat". Ten právník o tom prý
                "mluvil přímo s někým z ÚOOÚ". No a to je pro mě celé
                problematické. Striktní formulace zákona dodržet prostě
                nejde, a musíme doufat, že úředníci budou rozumní. A pak
                běda, když na tebe Bába bude chtít zakleknout. U soudu
                se nedovoláš, protože striktní požadavek nařízení jsi
                nesplnil a úředník se zrovna blbě vyspal. <br>
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                A to je to co mě na tom nejvíc štve a v tom musím dát za
                pravdu Snajpovi - tohle bychom si neměli nechat líbit.
                Protože to je přesně ono - těch nařízení a povinností je
                už tolik, že je nikdo není schopen plnit beze zbytku
                správně a jsi vydán na milost a nemilost úředníkům. Ale
                úředník by měl být služebník, který nám za naše peníze
                odváděné na daních slouží. A ne že mě stát může kdykoliv
                kdy se mu zamane zlikvidovat živobytí. To je jen
                přelakované otroctví, kdy se ovčanovi nechá jen
                dostatečně dlouhé vodítko, dokud je hodný. Státní aparát
                je tak možné potom zneužít např. pro konkurenční boj.
                Ale hlavně to skutečně s osobní svobodou a ani se
                svobodou podnikání nemá nic společného. Aneb všechna
                zvířata jsou si rovna, některá jsou si však rovnější. <br>
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                Š.<br>
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              <div class="m_-7459392817082270490moz-cite-prefix">Dne
                2.2.2018 v 16:01 zd nex napsal(a):<br>
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                    <div dir="ltr">Dobře, tzn je potřeba mít možnost
                      smazat z logů ip adresy daného uživatele (pokud na
                      to bude mít nárok). A jak se toto týká
                      komunikačních emailů (v emailu jsou obvykle
                      zaznamenány cesty emailu tedy i IP) a emailový
                      server? Pokud uživatel bude vyžadovat vymazání a
                      nebude dostupný žádný důvod pro zachování(např.
                      reklamace, účetnictví) tak se musí smazat všechny
                      emaily a zkontrolovat zálohy mail serveru a
                      podobně i u lidí kteří s tím pracují tzn v
                      emailovém klientu?<br>
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                        <div class="gmail_quote">Dne 2. února 2018 15:14
                          Ondrej.Flidr <span dir="ltr"><<a
                              href="mailto:Ondrej.Flidr@seznam.cz"
                              target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">Ondrej.Flidr@seznam.cz</a>></span>
                          napsal(a):<br>
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                            <div>Ta lhuta 30 dnu na vymazani neprojde:<br>
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                              <span style="color:rgb(0,0,0)">právo
                                na výmaz údajů (právo být zapomenut) -
                                subjekt údajů má za určitých podmínek
                                stanovených v nařízení, právo vznést
                                požadavek na výmaz údajů. Správce dat má
                                povinnost tyto údaje<b> bez odkladu
                                  vymazat</b> s ohledem na zákonné
                                povinnosti evidence.<br>
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                                OF<br>
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                              <aside> ---------- Původní e-mail
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                                Od: Petr Juhaňák <<a
                                  href="mailto:petr@juhanak.cz"
                                  target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">petr@juhanak.cz</a>><span
                                  class="m_-7459392817082270490gmail-"><br>
                                  Komu: vpsFree.cz Community list <<a
href="mailto:community-list@lists.vpsfree.cz" target="_blank"
                                    moz-do-not-send="true">community-list@lists.vpsfree.<wbr>cz</a>><br>
                                </span> Datum: 2. 2. 2018 15:07:58<span
                                  class="m_-7459392817082270490gmail-"><br>
                                  Předmět: Re: [vpsFree.cz:
                                  community-list] vpsFree.cz a GDPR </span></aside>
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                                  <div>Ahoj,</div>
                                  <div>uzivatel chodi za nejakou sluzbou
                                    ne za routerem.</div>
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                                  <div>Myslim ze je v poradku pokud
                                    spravce vpsky seznami uzivatele v
                                    politice o zpracovani osobnich
                                    udaju, ze jeho relace ( Ip adresa a
                                    cookie( se loguje po dobu 1mesice a
                                    pak je smazana ( rotaci logu)</div>
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                                  <div>Stejne tak i pozadavek na
                                    odstraneni osobniho udaje bude
                                    vyreseb  ve lhute 30 dnu.</div>
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                                  <div>S pozdravem
                                    <div>Petr Juhaňák</div>
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                                    <div><a
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                                        target="_blank"
                                        moz-do-not-send="true">petr@juhanak.cz</a>
                                      | <a
                                        href="tel:+420%20739%20639%20132"
                                        value="+420739639132"
                                        target="_blank"
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                                        639 132</a></div>
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                                  -------- Původní zpráva --------<br>
                                  Od: Matěj Koudelka <<a
                                    href="mailto:matej@hxpro.cz"
                                    target="_blank"
                                    moz-do-not-send="true">matej@hxpro.cz</a>>
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                                  Datum: 02.02.18 14:39 (GMT+01:00) <br>
                                  Komu: "vpsFree.cz Community list" <<a
href="mailto:community-list@lists.vpsfree.cz" target="_blank"
                                    moz-do-not-send="true">community-list@lists.vpsfree.<wbr>cz</a>>
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                                  Předmět: Re: [vpsFree.cz:
                                  community-list] vpsFree.cz a GDPR <br>
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                                          <div>Dne 2. února 2018 14:26
                                            Ondrej.Flidr <span
                                              dir="ltr"><<a
                                                href="mailto:Ondrej.Flidr@seznam.cz"
                                                target="_blank"
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                                                zasadni otazka - pokud
                                                je podle GDPR IP adresa
                                                osobni udaj uzivatele
                                                tak ji smazat z logu,
                                                zaloh apod. musis. A
                                                nikoho nezajima ze ji
                                                nemas jak sparovat, to
                                                jsi si mel zajistit.
                                                Defakto pujde o to ze
                                                veskery data, ktery
                                                muzou bejt osobnim
                                                udajem musime mit
                                                sparovatelny s konkretni
                                                osobou a smazatelny.<br>
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                                            <div>OK, no takže chcete-li
                                              vstoupit na můj web,
                                              ukažte občanku.. super. To
                                              je fakt absurdistán tady
                                              toto. Si asi budu muset
                                              najít čas si to nařízení
                                              přečíst. Neexistuje
                                              nějakej opensource od NSA,
                                              který by uměl takové
                                              informace získávat a
                                              evidovat?</div>
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                                          <div><b>Matěj Koudelka</b>
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                                                  href="tel:+420%20604%20266%20933"
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                                    href="http://lists.vpsfree.cz/listinfo/community-list"
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                            Community-list mailing list<br>
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                              href="http://lists.vpsfree.cz/listinfo/community-list"
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                                Zdeněk Dlauhý <br>
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                                Email:<a
                                  href="mailto:support@pripravto.cz"
                                  target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">support@pripravto.cz</a>
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                                Mobil: <a
                                  href="tel:+420%20702%20549%20370"
                                  value="+420702549370" target="_blank"
                                  moz-do-not-send="true">+420 702 549
                                  370</a><br>
                                Web: <a href="http://www.pripravto.cz"
                                  target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">www.pripravto.cz</a></div>
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              moz-do-not-send="true">Community-list@lists.vpsfree.<wbr>cz</a><br>
            <a href="http://lists.vpsfree.cz/listinfo/community-list"
              rel="noreferrer" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">http://lists.vpsfree.cz/<wbr>listinfo/community-list</a><br>
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