<div dir="ltr">OK, udělám si nějaký testlab a dám tomu šanci ;).</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">Dne 31. srpna 2016 11:46 Petr Žitný <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:petr@zitny.net" target="_blank">petr@zitny.net</a>></span> napsal(a):<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
  
    
  
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    <div>mam misto jak dva, resp. nekde tri nody
      + pole tak i variantu jednoho serveru, oboje funguje ok. Mam to
      radsi jak vmware :-) Vsude teda mam free verzi<br>
      <br>
      Dne 31.8.2016 v 11:06 Pavel Hruška napsal(a):<br>
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    <blockquote type="cite">
      <div dir="ltr">Oukej, a tedy trošku k tomu "<span style="font-size:12.8px">na nejakych mistech pouzivam taky
          Proxmox" by se nedalo dodat - konfigurace, spokojenost,
          spolehlivost, ... atd.?</span></div>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">Dne 31. srpna 2016 10:53 Petr Žitný <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:petr@zitny.net" target="_blank">petr@zitny.net</a>></span>
          napsal(a):<br>
          <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Ahoj,<br>
            <br>
            na nejakych mistech pouzivam taky Proxmox, doma pouzivam KVM
            s libvirt (ale je to solo stroj) a aktualne nejvetsi
            nasazeni co planuju je LXC s Ubuntu, ale je fakt, ze
            potrebujeme takovej vetsi docker a mensi virtual. Tzn.
            kontejner pro nas byla nejlepsi volba a tam je moznost
            realne OpenVZ nebo LXC a LXC nam vyslo v mnoha ohledech na
            ZFS jako lepsi reseni.<br>
            <br>
            --<br>
            Petr Zitny<br>
            <br>
            Dne 31.8.2016 v 10:46 Vaclav Dusek napsal(a):
            <div>
              <div><br>
                <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                  Dobry den,<br>
                  <br>
                  pokud se jedna o dulezite firemni systemy, tak bych
                  zacal tim, ze bych oslovil fi, napr. Dell a nechal si
                  od nich zpracovat nabidku na HW a SW od VMware - 2
                  servery, 2 diskova pole (iSCSI nebo FC)<br>
                  <br>
                  Jinak bych se do toho pustil v Proxmoxu s vyuzim
                  informci z predchozi konzultace<br>
                  <br>
                  Vse je o penezich a analyze rizik jednotlivych reseni<br>
                  <br>
                  Dne 30.8.2016 v 20:42 Pavel Hruška napsal(a):<br>
                  <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                    Děkuji za reakci.<br>
                    <br>
                    Doplním tedy: provozovat na tom budu (potřebuji)
                    firemní infrastrukturu,<br>
                    což znamená 3-4 Windows Servery (2008R2, 2012, ale i
                    třeba starší 2003)<br>
                    a nějaké podpůrné Linuxové servery. Cílem
                    virtualizace a HA je<br>
                    minimalizovat riziko spojené s výpadky jednotlivých
                    nodů (HW) a získat<br>
                    čas na jejich opravu / výměnu, plus samozřejmě
                    sdílení zdrojů.<br>
                    <br>
                    Zajímá mě, zda někdo dokáže posoudit rozdíl mezi
                    free/placenou<br>
                    distribucí, ačkoliv když se dívám na ceny, tak jsou
                    téměř lidové.<br>
                    <br>
                    P.H.<br>
                    <br>
                    Dne 30. srpna 2016 20:34 Vaclav Dusek <<a href="mailto:Vaclav.Dusek@cz-pro.cz" target="_blank">Vaclav.Dusek@cz-pro.cz</a><br>
                    <mailto:<a href="mailto:Vaclav.Dusek@cz-pro.cz" target="_blank">Vaclav.Dusek@cz-pro.cz</a><wbr>>>
                    napsal(a):<br>
                    <br>
                    <br>
                        - pro beznou praci konkurenceschopne s VMware.<br>
                    <br>
                        - placena verze pridava moznost supportu od
                    vyrobce, lepsi aktualizace<br>
                        <a href="https://www.proxmox.com/en/proxmox-ve/pricing" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.proxmox.com/en/pro<wbr>xmox-ve/pricing</a><br>
                        <<a href="https://www.proxmox.com/en/proxmox-ve/pricing" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.proxmox.com/en/pr<wbr>oxmox-ve/pricing</a>><br>
                    <br>
                        Zatim jsem se s problemy nesetkal, ale zalezi co
                    na tom budete<br>
                        provozovat<br>
                    <br>
                    <br>
                        Dne 30.8.2016 v 20:19 Pavel Hruška napsal(a):<br>
                    <br>
                            Mohl by se někdo více rozepsat o
                    zkušenostech s PROXMOX?<br>
                            Používáte free<br>
                            nebo placenou distribuci? Je to použitelné
                    do reálného provozu jako<br>
                            náhrada malého clusteru (2-3 nody, HA, do 10
                    VM) místo např. VMWare?<br>
                            Uvažuji výhledově o změně a na první pohled
                    to vypadá solidně.<br>
                    <br>
                            Díky,<br>
                            P.<br>
                    <br>
                            Dne 30. srpna 2016 18:35 Tomas Herceg <<a href="mailto:tth@rfa.cz" target="_blank">tth@rfa.cz</a><br>
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                    <mailto:<a href="mailto:tth@rfa.cz" target="_blank">tth@rfa.cz</a>>>><br>
                    <br>
                            napsal(a):<br>
                    <br>
                                Ahoj,<br>
                                taky sem chtel poradit proxmox -
                    kombinace lxc+kvm+debian<br>
                                muzu jedine doporucit<br>
                    <br>
                                On 08/30/2016 06:03 PM, Vaclav Dusek
                    wrote:<br>
                                > Dobry den,<br>
                                ><br>
                                > podivejte se na <a href="https://www.proxmox.com/en/proxmox-ve" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.proxmox.com/en/pro<wbr>xmox-ve</a><br>
                            <<a href="https://www.proxmox.com/en/proxmox-ve" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.proxmox.com/en/pr<wbr>oxmox-ve</a>><br>
                                <<a href="https://www.proxmox.com/en/proxmox-ve" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.proxmox.com/en/pr<wbr>oxmox-ve</a><br>
                            <<a href="https://www.proxmox.com/en/proxmox-ve" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.proxmox.com/en/pr<wbr>oxmox-ve</a>>><br>
                                ><br>
                                > Myslim, ze neprohloupite<br>
                                ><br>
                                > Dne 30.8.2016 v 16:48 Pavel Bařina
                    napsal(a):<br>
                                >> Ahoj,<br>
                                >> s kolegou řešíme jakou cestou
                    virtualizace se ve firmě<br>
                            vydat. Jelikož<br>
                                >> jsou zde odborníci na OpenVZ
                    rád bych se poradil. Já mám<br>
                            zkušenosti s<br>
                                >> KVM z jiné firmy a kolega zatím
                    zkoušel OpenVZ na CentOS<br>
                            release 6.7.<br>
                                >><br>
                                >> Vyšlo nové OpenVZ a jak jsem
                    zahlídl i zde s pár poznámek<br>
                            budoucnost<br>
                                >> OpenVZ může být nejistá. Jakou
                    cestou kontejneru byste se<br>
                            vydali vy?<br>
                                >> Nové OpenVZ, LXC nebo docker?
                    Zároveň bychom chtěli na<br>
                            stejném stroji<br>
                                >> provozovat i KVM (pro chod
                    Windows).<br>
                                >><br>
                                >> Momentálně máme na stroji
                    obojí. OpenVZ i KVM. Nicméně je<br>
                            problém se<br>
                                >> spouštěním virtuálního stroje v
                    KVM, po druhém pokusu o<br>
                            spuštění<br>
                                >> virtuálního stroje již naběhne.<br>
                                >><br>
                                >> Chyba při startu domény: Nelze
                    vytvořit cgroup pro<br>
                            Debian-wheeze:<br>
                                >> Adresář nebo soubor neexistuje<br>
                                >><br>
                                >> Traceback (most recent call
                    last):<br>
                                >>   File
                    "/usr/share/virt-manager/virtM<wbr>anager/asyncjob.py",<br>
                            line 91, in<br>
                                >> cb_wrapper<br>
                                >>     callback(asyncjob, *args,
                    **kwargs)<br>
                                >>   File
                    "/usr/share/virt-manager/virtM<wbr>anager/asyncjob.py",<br>
                            line<br>
                                127, in<br>
                                >> tmpcb<br>
                                >>     callback(*args, **kwargs)<br>
                                >>   File
                    "/usr/share/virt-manager/virtM<wbr>anager/domain.py",<br>
                            line 1355, in<br>
                                >> startup<br>
                                >>     self._backend.create()<br>
                                >>   File
                    "/usr/lib/python2.7/dist-packa<wbr>ges/libvirt.py",<br>
                            line 999,<br>
                                in create<br>
                                >>     if ret == -1: raise
                    libvirtError ('virDomainCreate()<br>
                            failed',<br>
                                >> dom=self)<br>
                                >> libvirtError: Nelze vytvořit
                    cgroup pro Debian-wheeze:<br>
                            Adresář nebo<br>
                                >> soubor neexistuje<br>
                                >><br>
                                >><br>
                                >>  KVM není spuštěno v
                    kontejnerech jako u VPS ale<br>
                            samostatně vedle<br>
                                OpenVZ<br>
                                >><br>
                                >><br>
                                >> Děkuji moc za postřehy a
                    nakopnutí správným směrem<br>
                                >><br>
                                >> Pavel<br>
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