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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Ahoj,<br>
      ono je to podobné tomu, když si pořád někdo stěžuje, že CZ.NIC
      platí kdejaký projekt, místo toho aby zlevnil domény. Ty domény
      jsou ale už teď velmi levné a další zlevnění by pomohlo jen
      spekulantům, pro běžné zájemce by jich bylo k dispozici méně a
      stejně by moc neušetřili. Podobných případů je spousta.<br>
      <br>
      Lukáš Jelínek<br>
      <br>
    </div>
    <blockquote
cite="mid:CAP8-Jp6+sQrkVqDGZYE8gCvkdm1WcLQK_pHKYCEtGCyGhG9VXg@mail.gmail.com"
      type="cite">
      <p dir="ltr">A je vyřešeno :-)</p>
      <div class="gmail_quote">Dne 12. 10. 2015 16:32 napsal uživatel
        "Pavel Snajdr" <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
          href="mailto:snajpa@snajpa.net">snajpa@snajpa.net</a>>:<br
          type="attribution">
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            <div>Ahojte,</div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>chtel jsem odepsat az z pocitace a poradneji, ale
              koukam, ze se tu na tohle tema intenzivne diskutuje, no
              diskutovat se muze :)</div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>Clensky prispevek na jednoho clena *nikdy* nebude
              nizsi, nez 300 Kc, cili kdyby se mel pro studenty snizovat
              na polovinu, zakladni by sel nahoru na 600 Kc.</div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>Krom spousty praktickych duvodu, ktere souvisi s
              tvorbou rozpoctu vpsFree, k tomu mam jeden osobni,
              sahajici do samotnych zacatku.</div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>Sdruzeni jsem zakladal, kdyz jsem jeste chodil na
              stredni skolu, byl jsem v tretaku, na internatu Skoda
              Auto, s minimalnimi vychazkami a tim padem minimalni
              moznosti brigad. Od rodicu jsem nedostaval kapesne nikdy.
              Cili jsem nedostatku penez rozumel mnohem lip, nez vetsina
              studentu VS. Presto jsem nechtel davat prispevek pod 300,
              protoze to by znamenalo nizky prijmem a tim padem nutnost
              delat veci lowcost. A nez delat veci lowcost, to je radsi
              nebudu delat vubec.</div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>Ja jsem nikdy clensky prispevek neplatil, ale za to
              jsem prvniho pul roku platil housing naseho prvniho
              serveru, coz diky super dohode s obchodnim v Masteru prave
              kvuli tomu, ze jsem nemel vic, bylo cca 500 Kc mesicne bez
              DPH. Cili pro mne delat vpsFree znamenalo ze zacatku cca
              dvojnasobek mesicniho prispevku a jeste mne to stalo
              hromady a hromady casu, do skoly jsem bezne zaspaval :)</div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>Krom toho vseho, za 6 let se diky inflaci hodnota 300
              Kc jeste snizila.</div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>Ja to tedy reknu jednoduse - budto hostujte u Wedosu a
              o to vic chlastejte, nebo budte soucasti vpsFree :)</div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>Dokud do toho budu mit co rict, pod 300 nikdy
              nepujdeme. Ale v individualnich pripadech se da domluvit,
              vymenou za nejakou aktivitu. A o to se do ted pokusil
              jediny - a ted uz dlouhodobe aktivni clen, ktery ma ted
              taky z cinnosti pro nas pravidelnou odmenu - Michal
              Janousek, ktereho znate jako toho, kdo spravuje platby a
              fakturaci. Takze za to mu vsechna cest.</div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>Kde se chce, jde to, kde se nechce, vymejsli se
              takovehle bejkarny. Slevy pro studenty tedy za mne
              dostavaji vyrazne ne-e a v kontextu, ktery pisu, maji u
              mne ti, kdo ten napad podporuji, spis minusove body.</div>
            <div><br>
            </div>
            <div>/snajpa</div>
            <div><br>
              On 12 Oct 2015, at 16:09, Thomass Quar <<a
                moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:quar.web@gmail.com"
                target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:quar.web@gmail.com">quar.web@gmail.com</a></a>> wrote:<br>
              <br>
            </div>
            <blockquote type="cite">
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                <div dir="ltr">
                  <div>Jo musel by se tam vychytat princip, že na té
                    levnější variantě nebudou povoleny některé věci -
                    třeba herní server, tsko, a podobně. Ale jinak
                    myšlenka byla že budeme mít levnější variantu.<br>
                    <br>
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                  Co se týče instalace vps. Upřímně řečeno, pokud někdo
                  chce vps, ví do čeho jde a i na LinuxDays jsme všem
                  říkali, že tu máme komunitu lidí, tzn. někdo něco neví
                  jak nastavit, napíše na list, ale jinak se o to stará
                  sám, případně si může na listu najít třeba admina a
                  řešit to už přímo. Nápad s obrazem s předinstalovaným
                  LAMP je sice hezký, ale jak bylo na LD taky zmíněno,
                  instalace VPS je hračka, správa je to co zabírá čas
                  (security issues, rozpadlý balíky po update a
                  podobně)..<br>
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                  <div class="gmail_quote">2015-10-12 15:54 GMT+02:00
                    Nikos Timiopulos <span dir="ltr"><<a
                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="mailto:nikos@manikstudio.cz"
                        target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:nikos@manikstudio.cz">nikos@manikstudio.cz</a></a>></span>:<br>
                    <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0
                      .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
                      <div style="word-wrap:break-word">Ahoj,
                        <div><br>
                        </div>
                        <div>pochopil jsem to tak, že námětem nebylo dát
                          studentům něco levněji, ale nabízet i levnější
                          variantu VPS typu 150 Kč / měsíc, ale s
                          odpovídajícími parametry (např. polovičními).
                          Chápu, že ne každý hned potřebuje tolik
                          prostředků a nechce se mu za ně platit, takže
                          pak jde k wedosu, digitalocean apod., i když
                          by byl rád u nás.</div>
                        <div><br>
                        </div>
                        <div>Jestli dobře pamatuju, tak se něco
                          podobného kdysi řešilo. Tehdy to myslím (když
                          tak mě opravte) vedení nechtělo s motivem, že
                          se spolek vyhne většímu množství riskantní
                          skupiny uživatelů (děti s herními a teamspeak
                          servery, či tak něco, linux spodina). Jak by
                          tomu bylo dnes vzhledem k současnému
                          přijímacímu řízení nevím, ale jestli se lidi
                          na levnější varianty na LinuxDays ptali, tak
                          proč ne, to riziková skupina snad není.</div>
                        <span><font color="#888888">
                            <div><br>
                            </div>
                            <div><br>
                            </div>
                            <div>Nikos</div>
                          </font></span>
                        <div>
                          <div>
                            <br>
                            <div>
                              <blockquote type="cite">
                                <div>On 12 Oct 2015, at 13:51, Aleš
                                  Rippl <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                    href="mailto:ales@rippl.cz"
                                    target="_blank">ales@rippl.cz</a>>
                                  wrote:</div>
                                <br>
                                <div>
                                  <div dir="ltr">Ne, pocvet uzivatelu
                                    neni jedine meritko. Take to ze jsme
                                    si vsichni tak trochu rovni. Rohliky
                                    pro studenty take nejsou levnejsi.
                                    Stejne pulka z nich na tom zacne
                                    velmi brzy provozovat komercni veci
                                    a uz od zacatku by meli chapat take
                                    "komercni" principy. Kdo bude
                                    kontrolovat studijni potvrzeni?
                                    Levnejsi maji ubytovani, vstupy do
                                    muzei a tramvajenku. Je na tom mene
                                    prace kdyz je to student? Je vykon
                                    meritkem ceny kdyz si odmyslim
                                    fyzicke zelezo nebo je to u VPS
                                    uplne to same? Je HW levnejsi pro
                                    studenty?
                                    <div><br>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>Ales</div>
                                    <div><br>
                                    </div>
                                    <div>
                                      <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                                        <div class="gmail_quote">2015-10-12
                                          13:42 GMT+02:00 Martin
                                          Miksanik <span dir="ltr"><<a
                                              moz-do-not-send="true"
                                              href="mailto:miksanik@gmail.com"
                                              target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:miksanik@gmail.com">miksanik@gmail.com</a></a>></span>:<br>
                                          <blockquote
                                            class="gmail_quote"
                                            style="margin:0 0 0
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                                            solid;padding-left:1ex">
                                            <div dir="ltr">Ja jsem kdysi
                                              potreboval neco pro
                                              python, kde mi byl wedos
                                              zcela k nicemu. Tak jsme s
                                              kamosem sli do VPSFree,
                                              kde jsem si kazdy nahrali
                                              svoje appky a byli jsme
                                              spokojeni (nez jsme se
                                              rozhadali :). Predtim jsem
                                              mel nejake pokusy s <a
                                                moz-do-not-send="true"
                                                href="http://www.alwaysdata.com/"
                                                target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.alwaysdata.com">www.alwaysdata.com</a></a>.
                                              <div>Mozna by stalo zato
                                                pripravit nejake deploy
                                                sablony/install
                                                scripty/ansible pro
                                                nejake zakladni vyuziti,
                                                protoze pro novacky to
                                                vsechno konfigurovat sam
                                                muze byt proti wedosu
                                                odrazujici. Otazka je,
                                                do jake miry se tady
                                                lidi, co si neumi
                                                nastavit zakladni veci,
                                                chcou. (at nejsou spatne
                                                reference/pretizeny
                                                support)</div>
                                            </div>
                                            <div class="gmail_extra"><br>
                                              <div class="gmail_quote">2015-10-12
                                                13:27 GMT+02:00 Jiri
                                                'Ghormoon' Novak <span
                                                  dir="ltr"><<a
                                                    moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:ghormoon@gmail.com" target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ghormoon@gmail.com">ghormoon@gmail.com</a></a>></span>:<br>
                                                <blockquote
                                                  class="gmail_quote"
                                                  style="margin:0 0 0
                                                  .8ex;border-left:1px
                                                  #ccc
                                                  solid;padding-left:1ex">Hoj,<br>
                                                  <br>
                                                  taky jsem kdysi hodne
                                                  uvazoval, jestli brat
                                                  ten zaklad od wedosu
                                                  za 150 nebo jit do
                                                  tohodle a prachy tam
                                                  hodne hraly roli. mit
                                                  polovicni vps za 150
                                                  tak tam neni o cem
                                                  uvazovat ani na
                                                  minutu.<br>
                                                  <br>
                                                  Gh.<br>
                                                  <br>
                                                  Thomass Quar wrote:<br>
                                                  <blockquote
                                                    class="gmail_quote"
                                                    style="margin:0 0 0
                                                    .8ex;border-left:1px
                                                    #ccc
                                                    solid;padding-left:1ex"><span>
                                                      Cau, ja jen
                                                      podotknu jednu vec
                                                      ze stanku, ktera
                                                      byla relativne
                                                      casto zminovana.<br>
                                                      <br>
                                                      Chtelo by to
                                                      vymyslet nejakou
                                                      nabidku pro
                                                      studenty. Dat jim
                                                      treba o polovinu
                                                      mensi prispevek a
                                                      zaroven o polovinu
                                                      nizsi parametry.
                                                      Pro hodne studentu
                                                      by sice nase
                                                      nabidka byla
                                                      krasna a super
                                                      (nas nejvetsi
                                                      konkurent je podle
                                                      linuxdays asi
                                                      wedos) ale draha..<br>
                                                      <br>
                                                    </span>
                                                    2015-10-11 22:20
                                                    GMT+02:00 Petr
                                                    Krcmar <<a
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href="mailto:petr.krcmar@vpsfree.cz" target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:petr.krcmar@vpsfree.cz">petr.krcmar@vpsfree.cz</a></a>
                                                    <mailto:<a
                                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:petr.krcmar@vpsfree.cz" target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:petr.krcmar@vpsfree.cz">petr.krcmar@vpsfree.cz</a></a>>>:
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                                                      <div><br>
                                                        <br>
                                                            Ahoj všem,<br>
                                                               právě
                                                        jsme se vrátili
                                                        z LinuxDays,
                                                        dopadlo to
                                                        naprosto
                                                        výborně.<br>
                                                            Měli<br>
                                                            jsme tam
                                                        stánek, kluci
                                                        výborně mluvili
                                                        s lidma, bylo
                                                        jich tam<br>
                                                            hodně, dva<br>
                                                            stabilně a
                                                        až tři další se
                                                        různě přidávali.
                                                        Díky moc všem!<br>
                                                        <br>
                                                            <a
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href="http://www.root.cz/galerie/linuxdays-2015-nedele/#15"
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target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.root.cz/galerie/linuxdays-2015-nedele/#15">http://www.root.cz/galerie/linuxdays-2015-nedele/#15</a></a><br>
                                                        <br>
                                                            Měli jsme
                                                        tam i přednášky,
                                                        až budou videa,
                                                        dám je na blog a
                                                        něco k<br>
                                                            tomu<br>
                                                            napíšu, ale
                                                        podle mě to
                                                        dopadlo výborně.
                                                        O vpsFree se tam
                                                        hodně<br>
                                                            mluvilo,<br>
                                                            tvítovalo a
                                                        moc dobře to
                                                        podle mě
                                                        fungovalo. Je
                                                        vidět, že nás
                                                        lidi už<br>
                                                            začínají
                                                        znát, na rozdíl
                                                        od loňského roku
                                                        už bylo výrazně
                                                        méně lidí,<br>
                                                            kteří řekli,
                                                        že nás vůbec
                                                        neznají. To je
                                                        dobrá zpráva.<br>
                                                        <br>
                                                            Přímo na
                                                        místě se nikdo
                                                        členem nestal,
                                                        ale to se asi
                                                        nedá čekat,<br>
                                                            ono to<br>
                                                            má long tail
                                                        a jde spíš o to,
                                                        aby lidi věděli,
                                                        že existujeme.
                                                        Až budou<br>
                                                            za rok
                                                        potřebovat VPS,
                                                        vzpomenou si na
                                                        nás.<br>
                                                        <br>
                                                            Za měsíc
                                                        jedeme do Brna
                                                        na OpenAlt a na
                                                        jaře jsme byli
                                                        pozváni do<br>
                                                            Bratislavy.
                                                        Snad to vyjde,
                                                        držte palce a
                                                        přijďte se na
                                                        nás na stánky<br>
                                                            podívat, i
                                                        když vpsFree
                                                        znáte :-).<br>
                                                        <br>
                                                            --<br>
                                                            Petr Krčmář<br>
                                                            vpsFree.cz<br>
                                                           
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                                                        *quar | <a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.quar.cf/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.quar.cf">www.quar.cf</a></a>
                                                        <<a
                                                          moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.quar.cf/" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.quar.cf">http://www.quar.cf</a></a>>*<br>
                                                        *html, python,
                                                        node.js, php
                                                        coder and
                                                        sysadmin*</font></span><span><br>
                                                      <br>
                                                      <br>
                                                      <br>
                                                      <br>
_______________________________________________<br>
                                                      Community-list
                                                      mailing list<br>
                                                      <a
                                                        moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:Community-list@lists.vpsfree.cz" target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Community-list@lists.vpsfree.cz">Community-list@lists.vpsfree.cz</a></a><br>
                                                      <a
                                                        moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://lists.vpsfree.cz/listinfo/community-list" rel="noreferrer"
                                                        target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://lists.vpsfree.cz/listinfo/community-list">http://lists.vpsfree.cz/listinfo/community-list</a></a><br>
                                                    </span></blockquote>
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                                                    <div>
                                                      <br>
_______________________________________________<br>
                                                      Community-list
                                                      mailing list<br>
                                                      <a
                                                        moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:Community-list@lists.vpsfree.cz" target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Community-list@lists.vpsfree.cz">Community-list@lists.vpsfree.cz</a></a><br>
                                                      <a
                                                        moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://lists.vpsfree.cz/listinfo/community-list" rel="noreferrer"
                                                        target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://lists.vpsfree.cz/listinfo/community-list">http://lists.vpsfree.cz/listinfo/community-list</a></a><span><font
color="#888888"><br>
                                                        </font></span></div>
                                                  </div>
                                                </blockquote>
                                              </div>
                                              <span><font
                                                  color="#888888"><br>
                                                  <br clear="all">
                                                  <div><br>
                                                  </div>
                                                  -- <br>
                                                  <div>S přáním pěkného
                                                    dne,<br>
                                                    Martin Mikšaník<br>
                                                    <br>
                                                    gsm: <a
                                                      moz-do-not-send="true"
href="tel:%2B420%20602%20623%20934" value="+420602623934"
                                                      target="_blank">+420
                                                      602 623 934</a><br>
                                                    icq: 311047283<br>
                                                  </div>
                                                </font></span></div>
                                            <br>
_______________________________________________<br>
                                            Community-list mailing list<br>
                                            <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                              href="mailto:Community-list@lists.vpsfree.cz"
                                              target="_blank">Community-list@lists.vpsfree.cz</a><br>
                                            <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                              href="http://lists.vpsfree.cz/listinfo/community-list"
                                              rel="noreferrer"
                                              target="_blank">http://lists.vpsfree.cz/listinfo/community-list</a><br>
                                            <br>
                                          </blockquote>
                                        </div>
                                        <br>
                                      </div>
                                    </div>
                                  </div>
_______________________________________________<br>
                                  Community-list mailing list<br>
                                  <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                    href="mailto:Community-list@lists.vpsfree.cz"
                                    target="_blank">Community-list@lists.vpsfree.cz</a><br>
                                  <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                                    href="http://lists.vpsfree.cz/listinfo/community-list"
                                    target="_blank">http://lists.vpsfree.cz/listinfo/community-list</a><br>
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                              </blockquote>
                            </div>
                            <br>
                          </div>
                        </div>
                      </div>
                      <br>
                      _______________________________________________<br>
                      Community-list mailing list<br>
                      <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="mailto:Community-list@lists.vpsfree.cz"
                        target="_blank">Community-list@lists.vpsfree.cz</a><br>
                      <a moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="http://lists.vpsfree.cz/listinfo/community-list"
                        rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://lists.vpsfree.cz/listinfo/community-list</a><br>
                      <br>
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                  <br>
                  -- <br>
                  <div>
                    <div dir="ltr">
                      <div><b style="font-size:12.8000001907349px"><font
                            face="monospace, monospace">quar | <a
                              moz-do-not-send="true"
                              href="http://www.quar.cf" target="_blank"><a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="http://www.quar.cf">www.quar.cf</a></a></font></b><br>
                      </div>
                      <b><font face="monospace, monospace">html, python,
                          node.js, php coder and sysadmin</font></b>
                      <div><font face="monospace, monospace"><br>
                        </font></div>
                      <div><br>
                      </div>
                    </div>
                  </div>
                </div>
              </div>
            </blockquote>
            <blockquote type="cite">
              <div><span>_______________________________________________</span><br>
                <span>Community-list mailing list</span><br>
                <span><a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="mailto:Community-list@lists.vpsfree.cz"
                    target="_blank">Community-list@lists.vpsfree.cz</a></span><br>
                <span><a moz-do-not-send="true"
                    href="http://lists.vpsfree.cz/listinfo/community-list"
                    target="_blank">http://lists.vpsfree.cz/listinfo/community-list</a></span><br>
              </div>
            </blockquote>
          </div>
          <br>
          _______________________________________________<br>
          Community-list mailing list<br>
          <a moz-do-not-send="true"
            href="mailto:Community-list@lists.vpsfree.cz">Community-list@lists.vpsfree.cz</a><br>
          <a moz-do-not-send="true"
            href="http://lists.vpsfree.cz/listinfo/community-list"
            rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://lists.vpsfree.cz/listinfo/community-list</a><br>
          <br>
        </blockquote>
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Community-list mailing list
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:Community-list@lists.vpsfree.cz">Community-list@lists.vpsfree.cz</a>
<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://lists.vpsfree.cz/listinfo/community-list">http://lists.vpsfree.cz/listinfo/community-list</a>
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